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A typical American uses religion, indulgent foods, shopping and pop culture to uphold their psyche instead of books on philosophy, perhaps this is why on our evening news we have Matt Lauer deciphering the lyrics to the song TOXIC and GWB in office with 51%. We are ruled by the dense macabre. Do any of you want to know what our Founding Fathers (men who are STILL smarter than the rest of us) thought about Christians?



WOW DOES ANY OF THIS SOUND FAMILIAR



"The Christian God can be easily pictured as virtually the same as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, evil and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed, beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of the people who say they serve him. The are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."
-- James Madison

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man"
-- Thomas Jefferson

"no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (US Constitution Article 6, section 3)



"I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works ... I mean real good works ... not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing ... or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity."

"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."

"I looked around for God's judgments, but saw no signs of them."

"In the affairs of the world, men are saved, not by faith, but by the lack of it."

--Benjamin Franklin ; Invented first library in America, the U.S. Postal System, lightning rod, Franklin stove. Persuaded the English to repeal the hated Stamp Act, also he who convinced the French to aid in the American Revolution. Helped draft both the Declaration of Independence and the American Constitution.



"The story of Jesus Christ appearing after he was dead is the story of an apparition, such as timid imaginations can always create in vision, and credulity believe. Stories of this kind had been told of the assassination of Julius Caesar."

"The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion."

Thomas Paine

"The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my profession."
Abraham Lincoln

"Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause. Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by the difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be depreciated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society"

George Washington, not George W



They believed in God, they were Deists;

Deism was a philosophical belief that was widely accepted by the colonial intelligentsia at the time of the American Revolution. Its major tenets included belief in human reason as a reliable means of solving social and political problems and belief in a supreme deity who created the universe to operate solely by natural laws. The supreme God of the Deists removed himself entirely from the universe after creating it. They believed that he assumed no control over it, exerted no influence on natural phenomena, and gave no supernatural revelation to man. A necessary consequence of these beliefs was a rejection of many doctrines central to the Christian religion. Deists did not believe in the virgin birth, divinity, or resurrection of Jesus, the efficacy of prayer, the miracles of the Bible, or even the divine inspiration of the Bible.

These beliefs were forcefully articulated by Thomas Paine in Age of Reason, a book that so outraged his contemporaries that he died rejected and despised by the nation that had once revered him as "the father of the American Revolution." To this day, many mistakenly consider him an atheist, even though he was an out spoken defender of the Deistic view of God. Other important founding fathers who espoused Deism were George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Ethan Allen, James Madison, and James Monroe.



"Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and imposters led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus."

- Thomas Jefferson

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."

-James Madison

"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."

-Thomas Paine

"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole carloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity."

-John Adams





I wonder how many people in this country would call these quotes anti-American, activist and wrong. The bigger picture is that the smart need to brawl down the dumb. These men went out of their way to go about the destruction of religion, in particular Christianity- why do you think they did this? WAKE UP AMERICA YOU ARE BEING ASS RAPED BY MORONS
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Shit! I visited an old community, Debate (aka circle jerk), and tried to comment and got notice that I have been expelled. If I only had more posts about furries, flatulence, pubes, the liberal media, wet pussy, fat girls and how cool it was when John Lennon got shot I would still be allowed to speak my mind! Oh how life is unfair. I should have kissed ass of guys who love hot chicks because…they love hot chicks. When will I ever learn?

Here is my new home with lots of pix

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Come the millennium, month twelve, In the home of greatest power, The village idiot will come forth to be acclaimed the leader.
~ Nostradamus 1555 AD
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“The reason to go to war is to save lives.”
~ Ari Fleischer, 2003-02-25
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“The president is worried about Saddam killing his own people.”
~ Ari Fleischer, 2003-02-25
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If so, then why is Bush killing them too?

“This is not about public relations. This is about protecting the lives of the American people…If Saddam Hussein destroys the missiles that he said he never had… you’ve got to wonder what other weapons does he have?”
~ Ari Fleischer
The missiles were no threat to the American people. They could not even make it half way to Israel much less America. The missiles in question were not secret. They simply went 20 miles further than the allowed 90 mile limit.

“Think about what you are saying. You’re saying that leaders of other nations are buyable.”
~ Ari Fleischer, 2003-02-25
The press guffawed with laughter since The press guffawed with laughter since Bush had just offered Turkey a $28 billion bribe.
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“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”
~ George Orwell (Ari Fleischer’s mentor)

“In our time political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible.”
~ George Orwell

“Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.”
~ George Orwell

“Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious.”
~ George Orwell

“The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.”
~ George Orwell

“We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.”
~ George Orwell

“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”
~ George Orwell

“As societies grow decadent, the language grows decadent, too. Words are used to disguise, not to illuminate, action: you liberate a city by destroying it. Words are to confuse, so that at election time people will solemnly vote against their own interests.”
~ Gore Vidal
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